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- The SE asia bible!
- Lonely Planet- not with this many package tourists.
- Great to read but difficult to do so due to VERY SMALL print.
- typical shoestring guide
- Lonely Planet SE Asia
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Lonely Planet Southeast Asia on a Shoestring (Lonely Planet Shoestring Guides)
China Williams ,
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The original and the best, Lonely Planet's `yellow bible' is your ticket to endless adventure in Southeast Asia. Want nonstop parties in 24-hour cities? Feel like sunning your skin on a deserted, white-sand beach? Picture yourself having tea with a remote hilltribe? Written by backpackers for backpackers, this guide will help you stay longer, pay less and experience more.
DIVE UNDER THE COVERS on current events, history, culture and the environment.
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Customer Reviews:
The SE asia bible!.......2006-11-29
Used this book to travel in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Vietnam and Bali (though I finally ended up buying another book for Bali as Indonesia itself is huge). Don't know if there is a better book that covers so many countries this well. Other people on tour had the Rough guide to SE Asia book and we found this one to be more useful because it had better maps and more information.
Obviously a bit tailored towards backpackers but you can easily find more upscale places (hotels, restaurants etc) in the "splurge" section.
Wouldn't dare to say that it covers everything but certainly a must-have for people traveling in the area
Lonely Planet- not with this many package tourists........2006-02-18
"Nobody touches the Lonely Planet for budget travel advice," states the back cover of this book.
I just finished travelling around Southeast Asia with this as my primary guidebook. It includes the basics for getting around, eating, etc... but it really is just the basics. I have used other books from the lonely planet series in the past, and have found them good enough to continue using, at least until this volume. It has been 5 years since I was in this region last, and things have changed. Especially the guidebook, which was once a rich trove of off-the-beaten-path hints and tips. Increasingly, however, it seems that the Lonely Planet authors seem less interested in helping you find a unique experience and more interested in serving up a cookie-cutter, package tourist rehash. I have a couple grievances with this book:
-It insists on constantly pointing out little sidebars entitled "Splurge!" which indicate ways that the budget traveller can spend a great deal of money in one shot. Why this is in a travel guide called "shoestring" I couldn't tell you. Neither do the authors, but I suppose we can assume that backpackers are interested in spending $5 a night for a couple of months and then blowing $150 to stay in some posh hotel in Kuala Lumpur or racking up an additional $20 in credit card debt for an entirely forgettable dining experience in Bangkok. I just don't feel these are relevant to 99% of actual budget travellers, but they waste a lot of space that could be much better used on greater detail. But I will get to that in a minute.
-Another issue I have is the lack of actual information about actually moving from one place to the next cheaply. Cheap local transport is available in many of the places covered in the book. For some reason though, the book usually offers helpful advice like 'just take a cab,' or 'buses are so cheap, so don't bother with local transport.' As an independent traveler that actually enjoys saving money AND spending time with the locals (what's the purpose of traveling again?!?!), I regret the lack of information about local transport.
-The maps in the book, though better than some in past editions, leave much to be desired. Streets are incorrectly labeled or in the wrong place, intersections are vaguely marked, and occasionally they add a street that doesn't exist or remove a street that does. Worst of all, in a region that prides itself on an almost complete lack of road signage, not many good landmarks are given to orient oneself. There is little that is less fun on the road than standing in front of a train station, staring at one's new alien surroundings, being hassled by touts who are trying to steer you in the wrong direction while trying to find that cheap hostel you read about.
Look, if you want a run-of-the-mill book to complete a run-of-the-mill trip, by all means, you will find this book quite helpful. But if you are looking for that individual experience that is the beauty of independent travel, you might be best going with a different guide for this region.
By the way, the quote I wrote at the beginning should be viewed as a warning rather than an enticement
Great to read but difficult to do so due to VERY SMALL print........2006-01-28
I really like the Lonely Planet guides, and this one is very good regarding the amount of information it contains. My main complaint is the size of the type. Not only is it very small and difficult to read even with glasses on, but the paper is very thin so the words from the reverse page show through. I'd rather pay a couple of extra dollars and have higher quality paper. I also agree with other reviewers who felt that the Indonesia chapter could easily be eliminated, partly because it is difficult to due justice to that widespread country in a chapter.
typical shoestring guide.......2005-08-25
This guide is really good value, although you notice easily that it covers a lot of countries. South East Asia is big, the book is limited in size and therefore detail is missing. I bought seperate guides for Laos and Cambodia and this benifited my trip greatly.
Also, the part about Bangkok doesn't show the best bits and doesn't quite warn you for the worst(sex tourism), either.
Lonely Planet SE Asia.......2005-08-15
This is another great issue from the dedicated researchers, writers and readers of the practical and economic guides for world travelers. The SE Asia book is written with particular care, insight, and affection. In addition to a wealth of information on the countries of SE Asia, the guide offers some of the best practical advice for living, traveling, and surviving in Cambodia, Thailand, Laos, and other countries I did not visit and thus cannot speak to. It was just as good as any of their guides to China or India I that I have used in the past.
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Thailand was once an enigmatic paradise of pristine beaches, hidden temples and remote mountain refuges. Here's the secret: it can still be that way. Let Lonely Planet guide you past the world of the tourist brochures and into the true heart of the this glorious land.
• AUTHORITATIVE OPINION - incisive, candid reviews let you travel your way
• INSIDER'S PERSPECTIVE - from traveling with children to visiting tsunami-affected regions, our expert authors provide the definitive word
• THE WORLD'S BEST TRAVEL MAPS - meticulously checked and fully cross-referenced
• ACCOMMODATION FOR ALL BUDGETS - from sumptuous palace hotels to breezy beach bungalows
• EXTENSIVE LANGUAGE CHAPTER - you'll be ordering Singhas and chatting with locals in no time
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Generally good, but could be better.......2007-03-29
I've used a lot of lonely planet guides in my travels, but I found this one a bit less useful than other LP country guides. It just seemed like the detail was missing, especially in regards to beaches and water activities. It almost seems like you need to buy this guide for 'most of Thailand' and then the seperate guide for beaches which is just asking too much. Could have more detail on major attractions like the Grand palace (how about a map?) and more detail on things like snorkelling / diving / surf spots on maps like they do for the Hawaii guide
Great Guide Book.......2007-01-24
I have read this booking and really love it, I am Thai citizen, but some part which Joe has written in the book is reflect the real thing, something which I never look down and realize (I think insider might see different from outsider). That's really true.
Excellent book - best Lonely Planet guide I ever had.......2006-12-23
I travel a lot and, as a consequence, i do purchase a lot of the guides by Lonely planet. That Thailand guide is an excellent guide that gives you info you are looking for, historical highlights, maps and short stories, and, is not 'dry' as other guides.
If you never had it and you are going to Thailand - get it - it is a must.
Outstanding for the first time visitor.......2006-11-28
I just returned from a month in Thailand and found the Lonely Planet Guide to be very impressive. Several things to remember is that:
a) if the publishing date is 2005 the content is probably several months to a year older.
b) if you have local friends and/or family the guide will still be useful but not nearly so compared to a traveler who is on their own. You might keep thinking why the guide doesn't cover something that your in country friend gives you great info or insight into. Relax, the LP guide, despite its heft can only provide so much info.
Comments on LPs logistics and highlights...
1) Logistics.
Negative. There wasn't a lot of coverage given on the new low fare airlines that are now available but this might be because these airlines did not exist in force when the research was done.
Positive. I traveled on local bus, long distance bus, train, taxi, moto-taxi, sky train, subway, regional airplane and even tuk-tuk. The guild had very precise information on how to get around locally and through out the country. This was probably the most helpful part of the book with information I was not able to find easily elsewhere. (Always keep in mind that prices and times will change though.)
Highlights.
Negatives. I could tell that the writers have a particular perspective on what is a highlight and what is not. They love the Wats or temples. I admit that many are incredible and worth the journey. But there are many, many, many of them. After seeing a few Wats, Wat fatigue set. The point is to keep your own interests in mind and not let the guide pick too much of what you decide to do.
Positives. I enjoyed many of the suggestions in the book including the cooking school in Kanchanaburi, walking the alleys of Chinatown in Bangkok, a particularly spectacular guest house in Koa Tao, etc.. My highlights were definitely not the guide's highlights but were found in the guide.
Thailand has a lot to see and the LP guide does an admirable job within the limits of the print format. Now get out there!
Good Guide!.......2006-09-29
Normally, I look at tour books for the following things:
1. If mentions restaurants then its touristized and Americanized food.
2. They steer you to expensive hotels and over prices places.
3. They are rarely updated.
Not this guide! This was really really helpful. I read most of the background and history. It was nice that they had Thai people on writing staff giving a local perspective. The recommendations were dead on for most part.
I liked the fact that they covered all of the regions of Thailand - its a huge, beautiful country.
Their helpful tips to avoid problems were dead on. I confirmed it with the locals while there. Khup un khap (Thanks in Thai)
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Today one can hardly walk a block in Manhattan without encountering the striking and distinctive architectural creations of Carrere & Hastings. For five decades, this architectural firm endeavored to provide the city they loved with classically beautiful buildings worthy of a world capital. CARRERE & HASTINGS, ARCHITECTS is the first complete examination and visual record of this firm s exceptional achievements. Volume I features detailed biographies and a history of the firm, along with a thorough record of their urban designs: commercial and civic structures, urbane parks, and distinguished town houses. Volume II concentrates on their country house and landscape work, a field in which they had no peer, as well as their achievements as designers of churches, academic, and institutional buildings, and festive exhibition pavilions for world s fairs. Illustrated with more than 800 duotone photographs, including 7 gatefolds plates, the set includes a catalog of Carr??re & Hastings projects, a roster of the firm s members, and a comprehensive bibliography.
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An intelligent, and lavish tribute to the architects.......2007-02-26
Acanthus Press has packaged an extensive collection of archival photography with the lucid and expert essays of four appreciative observers of Beaux-Arts and Eclectic architecture to produce this monumental, two-volume tribute to John Carrere and Thomas Hastings. The architectural quality of the firm's work is reflected in the lavish production values assigned to book. This seems particularly apt since since Carrere & Hastings included among their commissions the New York Public Library. The quality of the Gilded Age firm's work was matched by the volume and range of its output: hotels, retail and office buildings, country estates, city mansions, theatres, institutional buildings, churches, monuments and exhibitions. Through these many projects, Carrere & Hastings put their stamp on the face of the nation and helped define an age. In addition to preserving the memory of many buildings that have long ago been replaced by less aesthetically pleasing structures, the text surprises with insights and vignettes on C&H, the period in which the firm operated and even public policy. Essayist Charles D. Warren's contribution on civic architecture provides an excellent introduction to the evolution of policy and practice in the awarding of architectural contracts on government buildings, beginning with the Tarnsey Act of 1893. Essayist William Morrison, who has made a specialty of the study of Broadway theater architecture, applies it here, but extends his reach to a range of other commercial buildings, with a special focus on C&H's hotels--too few of which survive. The credentials of the writers have produced text that is both authoritative and accessible. Morrison and fellow essayist Kate Lemos (who ably handles the extensive section on C&H libraries)are architectural historians, while Warren and Mark Alan Hewitt are practicing architects. Individually and collectively, they provide descriptive detail and historical context in clear, crisp prose. The set features hundreds of exquisitely reproduced photographs and the volumes are housed in a debossed box with inset plates both front and back. A worthy tribute to the architects it commemorates and to the age in which they practiced.
CARRERE AND HASTINGS.......2007-01-11
If I could award this book ten stars I would, it's that good. Acanthus Press puts out gorgeous, well researched books and this could be their best publishing to date. Carrere and Hastings excelled in the grand Beaux Art style and it is so refreshing that so much of their work has survived. This is an exhaustive, scholarly piece of art and the author, Kate Lemos should be proud of this work. I was aware of much of the architecture of this Carrere and Hastings, but was surprised at the breath of their work. The images in this book are fantastic and the text is highly informative. If you have any interest in Carrere and Hastings or Guilded Age architecture, or just frankly appreciates gorgeous books, then you will love this book. In a word, spectacular.
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There's never been a better time to experience Thailand's world-class islands and beaches, pristine sands and crystal clear waters await. Expanded coverage on remote islands; new diving & other activities special chapter; indepth history, culture and food & drink chapters; more than 85 easy to use maps.
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Customer Reviews:
Awful.......2007-04-08
One of the worst guide books I have ever read Sparse inaccurate information. Even though published March 2004 tells readers a Tuk Tuk in Patong Beach costs 10 baht (it costs 150 baht!)Full of broad information obviously culled from other (older) guides, not learned by personal experience. Garbage. Don't waste your money.
Thailand Islands & Beaches.......2007-01-31
This book is particularly helpful as it contains many detailed maps. As well, the accomodation section is very useful for the traveler who does not have any set plans as it helps to show several different price ranges from budget to high end & includes phone numbers & websites of them frequently.
there are also tips for every type of traveler here in very detailed sections on every province in thailand. although it says islands & beaches there is a very good section on Bangkok city itself which is good as most people start & end up their Thailand vacation there anyway & spend some time in the city.
Lonely Planet is the best choice........2006-08-28
The Lonely Planet travel books are really the very best choice. This new edition of "Thailands Islands and Beaches" covers areas up to date after the tsunami. It is complete and informitive. I go to Thailand every year and always bring my Lonely Planet.
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From the beaches of the south to the mountains of the north, Thailand is a beautiful and diverse land. Thailand: The Golden Kingdom encapsulates Thai history, culture, and art in one compact volume. It gives an endearing portrait of Thailand's multi-ethnic population, the people's beliefs and ways of life and sets it in an historical and cultural context. Over 140 stunning color photographs illustrate the clear, insightful text about all aspects of one of Asia's most fascinating places.
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Thailand: The Golden Kingdom.......2006-08-23
This was a gift for a friend that loves Thailand and lived and traveled there extensively. He loved this book. It is a great reminder of all he loved about such a beautiful country.
The Golden Kingdom.......2000-08-26
This is a great coffee table book! At a reasonable price. It is loaded with beautiful photography of many different aspects of Thailand. If you love Thailand you will love this book. If you know nothing of Thailand this book will make you want to learn more. When your friends see it they will be ooing and aawing.
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Tropical gardens are some of the most spectacular to be found anywhere. The rich diversity of tropical flora and climates allows for an astonishing variety of forms, both native and introduced. Modern tropical gardens afford a display of striking plants from all over the world, in arrangements that blend the traditions of many countries and cultures. This highly successful compendium presents a selection of the most beautiful gardens of Hawaii, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, and Indonesia, including Bali. Traditional and modern types are considered, and the origins and individual features of each example are discussed in full. With a special section giving information on garden features, the book will be a source of ideas and inspiration to gardeners both in the tropics and in temperate regions.
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The Tropical Garden.......2003-10-23
Warren and Tettoni pair up again with luscious footage in The Tropical Garden. For those world travelers in whom Bali has inspired a love of tropical flowers, plants, and gardens, this book will bring back the warmth and splendor of the perpetual latitudes of summer. It contains 291 full-color illustrations of the flamboyant diversity of tropical flora in hotel, royal, religious, botanical, museum, palace, water, presidential, and colonial gardens from Bali to Java to Hawaii, Rangoon, Bangkok, Singapore, and Malaysia. Warren's text and Tettoni's photographs show us a paradise of fruitful blooms and eternal abundance, with delightful coverage of well-styled Balinese gardens in Sanur and the posh Four Seasons Resort at Jimbaran Bay. Brilliant, rebellious, downtrodden French artist Paul Gaugin described an equivalent utopia in an 1890 letter penned from Tahiti: "Out there at least, with winterless skies overhead and wonderfully fertile ground underfoot, Tahitians only have to lift their arms to gather their food. . . . Whereas in Europe men and women satisfy their needs only after ceaseless toil, contending all the while with convulsions of cold and hunger, prey to poverty. The Tahitians, blessed inhabitants of Oceania's unknown paradise, know only the sweet things life has to offer. For them, life is singing and loving." Gaugin could just as well have been describing the tropical treasure that is Bali--lying succulent and verdant under the benevolent, life-giving equatorial sun.
Ordinary Tropicana.......2003-07-30
Lots of photos, could have been bigger and show more detail.
Lots of plants, but the ususal varities, not very exciting.
I live in Hawaii and most of this stuff is at Home Depot.
Charming tsxt but not helpful to the serious gardener.
Nice coffee table book, will keep the rings off the table top.
Tropical Garden.......2001-08-27
A beautiful book. I love the photographs. Very illustrtive and also I liked the first chapter on history. A book you can see again and again. Very relaxing.
Just a plain decoration book ... with an attractive topic.......2000-05-14
You will find in this books the kind of articles you read in decoration magazines. Pictures are big but don't expect any artistic originality. A useful book if you plan to plant a tropical garden in your backyard.
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Constantine Vibe.......2007-08-18
When consuming Desolation Jones it seems to eminate a vibe from a good Constantine story. It has several clever ideas, first and foremost that LA serves as an prison for ex-spooks. The art was good, however at times, it detracts from the story.
Weird detective, Ellis style.......2007-08-02
Warren Ellis is king of the bizarre and disgusting. His independent stuff demonstrates that perfectly (cf. his first novel). This was a creative take on the espionage/detective genre. It does have adult content and adult situations. I DEFINITELY disagree another reviewer who thinks that this might be appropriate for middle school kids. Definitely NC-17. But worth a read.
A great book........2007-05-13
This book has an amazing feel for bitterly creative. A disturbingly fun ride. All that needs to be said is two words, "Hitler porn." Jones is one of those characters that you want to feel for but just you don't, you want to like him but you just don't. That sounds like a bad thing although it definitely adds to the tone and story of the book. I highly recommend this book.
Enter the world of espionage, guided by engaging artwork.......2007-01-08
Desolation Jones is an ex-spy from Britain living in a seedy underworld, located in Los Angelos, CA, which also home to other ex-spies. At the end of his career, Jones volunteered to be a guniea pig for an human-enhancement experiment called the Desolation program. This program has left him scarred and a shell of a man. Now, Jones does free-lance espionage in Los Angelos interacting with various allies/advisaries with a similar background as himself.
Due to the setting and the nature of espionage, there is some graphic action/situations that occur, mostly of a violent nature that is artfully and tastefully handled. I would say that this is not for children, but perhaps for those well-adjusted and mature-minded young adults (probably good for high school, maybe a little younger).
The fractured world that Jones views is very well interpretated by the vivid artwork of the book, some of the best I have seen. I've read my share of grahpic novels, and this graphic novel is very unique and exciting. I'm looking forward to reading more from this series. Highly recommended.
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- Silk King
- One of the most fascinating missing persons cases on record!
- Curiouser and curiouser
- Thailand's Colorful Mystery Man
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Jim Thompson: The Unsolved Mystery
William Warren
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On Easter Day, 1967, American businessmen and founder of the modern Thai silk industry James H.W. Thompson disappeared while supposedly on a stroll in the jungle-clad Cameron Highlands in Central Malaysia. Neither Jim Thompson nor his remains has ever been found.
Some twenty years earlier Jim Thompson had abandoned his former life to embark on an exotic business career in Southeast Asia. After establishing the Thai Silk Company, Thompson built a house and an art collection which are among Bangkok's top tourist attractions today. After vanishing, he became the subject of a massive search and investigation, and a mystery that has never been solved. This definitive account of the life of Jim Thompson, written by a man who knew him well, gives the reader a first-hand glance into his private affairs and his alleged role as an agent for the CIA .
This true-life mystery will keep you turning the pages to the final chapter.
Customer Reviews:
Silk King.......2005-09-11
After having travelled to Thailand and seen Jim Thompson's house in Bangkok, I was interested in learning more about Jim's life & disappearance. This book appears to give a fair and balanced look at Jim's life (although some may disagree since the author was a personal friend). It's a good read, interesting, but not without fault. The editing for one had some lapses. There are quite a few times where I found typos or missing words. That gets annoying after a while.
Of the many theories surrounding Jim's disappearnce in the Cameroon Highlands in Malaysia, the author holds a view that makes the most sense to me. I won't reveal it. I recommend the book.
In terms of the edition itself, the book was printed on good paper stock and is of high quality.
One of the most fascinating missing persons cases on record!.......2003-01-01
James H.W. Thompson was a legend. Born in 1906, he served during WWII in the O.S.S which later became the C.I.A. His real claims to fame however were first as the 'Thai Silk King' and secondly as a missing person rivaling Judge Crater and Jimmy Hoffa for mystery. This book should have inspired several others on Thompson since he lived such a legendary and fascinating life. Sadly, this is really the only authoritative book out there on him. Nearly 36 years have done nothing to dispel the myths and rumors about what may have happened to him during a fateful weekend in the Cameron Highlands of Malaysia (Easter weekend of 1967). For those who love a real-life mystery, tantalizing clues, possibilities, and innuendos keep the reader guessing as to his possible fate. You won't find any definitive answers here, but what you will find is an extraordinary life laid out in the most entertaining of biographical narratives.
Curiouser and curiouser.......2002-09-22
Bought this book on a recent trip to Thailand. Have known of the many stories surrounding Jim Thompson and wanted to read the definitive book on the subject. Unfortunately, I'm no further ahead in learning the solution but the book is fascinating and a page turner.
And since the author is a true fan of Jim Thompson, is what HE wrote the truth or is there still more out there?
This book will just make the reader want to know more.
Thailand's Colorful Mystery Man.......2001-05-19
I began this book on Christmas day while visiting Singapore after having spent a few days in Thailand. My son wouldn't give up possession of this book as he was also reading it. It just was made available this Spring in the U.S. I can't wait to get a copy and finish it! It is a great mystery story and also a fascinating account of a man who was instrumental in revitalizing Thailand's silk industry.
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This law school casebook provides detailed information on bankruptcy law. The casebook provides the tools for on-point study of the fundamentals of all types of bankruptcy issues. Part of the University Casebook Series®, it includes selected cases designed to illustrate the development of a body of law on a particular subject. Text and explanatory materials designed for law study accompany the cases. The Seventh Edition treats in detail the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, coming to grips with the policy issues that have been before Congress for the past several years. It also features important new cases and other recent developments.
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- Fantastic! A must in any environmental scientist's library
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Handbook of Chemical Property Estimation Methods: Environmental Behavior of Organic Compounds
Warren J. Lyman ,
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This handbook presents simple estimation methods for 26 important properties of organic chemicals that are of environmental concern. A must-have resource, this book facilitates the study of problematic chemicals in such applications as chemical fate modeling, chemical process design, and experimental design. Using the handbook's step-by-step instructions and a hand calculator, you'll be able to quickly and easily obtain the needed estimations. Environmental chemists, environmental managers, chemical engineers, pharmacologists, and other scientists will find this volume invaluable in assessing potential environmental problems relating to organic chemicals.
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Fantastic! A must in any environmental scientist's library.......1998-06-21
Gives a detailed explanation of the different properties needed for environmental modeling and even for chemical engineering design. Very well written, thought a little boring (is imposible to be funny with this kind of material). Puts you in the right track immediatly.
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